HisWattson says Pathfinder feels “horrible” in Apex Legends as he releases tier list
After releasing his Solo Queue Tier List, HisWattson said Pathfinder feels “horrible” to play when you’re going in alone.
With 24 Legends in Apex Legends as of Season 17, there’s plenty ofvariety among the expansive roster. From abilities to different hitboxes, there are a bunch of factors that make a character worth playing over another.
In Season 17, characters like Pathfinder, Octane, and Wraith have proven to bethe most popular Legendsthanks to their abilities and performance in the game’s ever-changing meta.
However, pro Apex Legends player Jacob ‘HisWattson‘ McMillin has said he thinks Pathfinder feels “horrible” to play when solo queueing thanks to one very big factor.
HisWattson thinks Pathfinder is not great for solo play
On August 12, 2025, HisWattsontweetedout his own Solo Queue Tier List in Apex Legends. Among the top spots were Loba, Horizon, Bangalore, Octane, and Wraith.
While Pathfinder wasn’t far behind at the top of B-Tier, the pro player made it clear that characters with large hitboxes are “just a massive L.”
Solo Queue Tier List@PlayApexLoba is just 2-3x better than any other character, even more so after gaining the ability to craft banners.Large hitboxes are just a massive L. If your hitbox is 2x bigger than someone else you have to average 2x more value from your abilities…pic.twitter.com/PQD3GCmqh4
He went on to explain: “If your hitbox is 2x bigger than someone else you have to average 2x more value from your abilities which just doesn’t really happen.” Naturally, if a Legends’ hitbox is bigger than average, that means it’s innately easier for an enemy to land shots on that Legend.
As such, Legends like Pathfinder, Vantage, and Gibby have an innate disadvantage compared to characters like Wraith, for example.
However, the pro player also said that “Characters with low mobility are also pretty useless,” which likely bumped Pathfinder up plenty of spots on the list.
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TSM RavencontestedHisWattson’s claim that Vantage’s placement on the list, and noted her mobility and “hitscan sniper” help her in solo queue matches.
i mean maybe if you play super passive but sometimes you gotta be a gigachad and the big hitbox just feels awful. it might just be my playstyle but idk. pathfinder and vantage just feel absolutely horrible for me
The FURIA player countered and said, “I mean maybe if you play super passive but sometimes you gotta be a gigachad and the big hitbox just feels awful… Pathfinder and Vantage just feel absolutely horrible for me.”
While performance always comes down to pure skill at the end of the day, it’s certainly true that a Legends’ unique characteristics factor into matches as well.
